 | Do I need to
register to use this site? |
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No
- anyone may use this web site to calculate your
scores, view current ladder tables, handicaps, rules, etc.
Flight details from pilots who have
submitted their own scores may also be freely examined.
You will only
need to register and log on to the system if you intend to
submit your own claims, or if you wish to maintain your own
previously submitted flight details. |
 | How do I
submit my scores online? |
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You
must first log on to the system using your email address and
password. If you have not yet registered with the BGA Ladder
site, register
now.
When logged on,
go to the Calculator page and enter your cross-country or height
gain claim. After calculating your score, you may submit it to
the ladder after which your Ladder scores are recalculated and
become available immediately to other site visitors. |
 | Do I need to
delete low scoring flights? |
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No
- The system will automatically recalculate your total score
using the best six scores from all the flights you have
entered.
The system will automatically update all Ladders for which the
flight qualifies. |
 | I made a
mistake while submitting a claim - how do I correct it? |
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You
are able to change some of your own flight details after submission. Log on
to the My Flights page, select the flight you want to change and
click the Edit icon. Make
the appropriate changes and click the Update button. This
facility is only available for claims made during the current
season.
For changes
that substantially alter the scoring, the flight must be deleted
and re-entered using the
Calculator/Submit facility. BUT - be aware that the normal
10% penalty will apply if you resubmit the flight more than 14
days after it took place!
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 | What do
the phrases '28% Triangle' and '25/45 Triangle' mean? |
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In
a 28% triangle, no leg of the triangle may be less than 28% of the total distance.
This
is of importance for pilots who are chasing records because FAI
rules specify certain minimum criteria that apply to triangles.
Similarly, in order for a triangle to meet the 25/45 rule, no
side may be less than 25% of the total distance and no side may
be greater than 45% of the total distance.
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 | What about
clubs that use multiple start and finish points? |
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Some
of the larger clubs have more than one start and finish point (for
example, to avoid gaggling in a congested area, or for airspace
reasons) - examples include Lasham and Gransden Lodge. For the
purpose of categorising the shape of the task, any task with start and finish points less than 10km apart
may be regarded as closed-circuit, while all others are open-circuit. This is the
factor that determines whether a 3-leg task, for example, is a
triangle or a zig-zag. |
 | The system
keeps giving me a 10% penalty - what have I done wrong? |
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You
have submitted your score online more than 14 days month after the
flight actually took place. In accordance with
Rule
13, a
10% penalty is imposed in order
to encourage timely input of ladder claims. This is intended to
make the
contest more fair for everyone else.
If you have a
good reason for having been unable to enter your scores in time,
please contact your own Club Ladder Steward, who has the
facility to override penalty scores. |
 | I have
entered a Height Claim but my score does not appear on the
Ladder tables. |
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A
logger file must be uploaded if you want to
enter a height claim online, in accordance with Rule
5.4. If
you have flown with a non-electronic barograph instead of a
logger., you must submit your claim to your club ladder steward
who will be happy to examine your trace and enter your score on
your behalf. |
 | How does the
site deal with incorrect or extravagant claims? |
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Any
flight submitted by a pilot appears on the current tables as a
clickable item. Any visitor to the BGA Ladder web site will be
able to view the details of your flight, including dates, glider
types and task details. If any irregularities are perceived,
particularly by your club peers, it is highly likely that they
will be referred to your Club Ladder Steward for further
investigation. |
 | Why is my club not listed as a
BGA National Ladder
Club?
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Your club may operate its own Ladder quite
independently of the National Ladder and perhaps using different rules. Any
club wishing to take part in the National Ladder should appoint a Club Ladder Steward
(if one does not already exist) and get
him/her to contact the
National
Ladder Steward for
further information.
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 | Do undeclared or uncompleted tasks carry speed points? |
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YES!
Undeclared tasks, provided that they did not involve a landout,
will score 60% of the points that would have been scored
had the flight been declared. Uncompleted tasks will also score a percentage
depending on what proportion of the declared task was achieved. Possibly not
worth the effort for a small task, but something like an abandoned 750km may
still score a couple of thousand points. |
 | I am a UK National - can I enter flights
made abroad onto the National Ladder? |
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Afraid not. Rule 2 specifies that the flight
must originate in the UK. However, there is nothing to stop the ambitious
pilot from launching at, say Rufforth, and continuing across the channel and
down towards the centre of France. Lots of points, although I suspect that any
pilot attempting this sort of task would not have the National Ladder
uppermost in mind. |
 | Must I provide flight evidence for every
claim? |
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Some clubs insist locally that loggers or
cameras are used before a claim may be made - this makes the job of the Club
Ladder Steward less contentious. It is not a mandatory requirement as far as the
National Ladder is concerned (but see the notes below) and most clubs operate the ladder by accepting
the pilot's word for declarations and speeds. This is intended to encourage as
many pilots to take part as possible. The local club ladder steward will
usually be able to spot any irregular claims and challenge the suspect pilot
accordingly.
Note, however, that a BGA prize will not be
awarded to a pilot for flights lacking the appropriate evidence. The moral is,
if you have a logger, use it for every flight and save the files. Note that photographic
evidence is no longer acceptable in support of BGA Trophy
claims.
The Ladder site
has a facility that permits pilots to upload logger files for
their flights. These files will be visible to, and may be
downloaded by, all site visitors who view the flight details
pop-up page.
Note 1:
Logger file uploads are mandatory for Height claims.
Note 2: Cross-country claims without logger files will be
scored using distance points only until the logger file is
posted. Once a logger file has been uploaded, speed points will
be included in the total score.
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 | The handicapping system seems to be
unfair to gliders with high handicaps. Why is this? |
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Glider handicaps are based on
the flights made on an average British soaring day, which everyone knows is
pretty mediocre. However, the ladder is almost always won with flights made on
the strongest days, when the handicaps ought to be compressed for them to
remain fair. In other words, the handicap for an ASH 25, for example, should
be several points less on a strong day than it is on a standard day. However,
if 'strong day' handicaps were used throughout the season, including on the
weaker days, this would give an overwhelming advantage to high-handicap gliders, so the 'average day'
handicaps have been retained to give as many glider types a chance as
possible.
During the
2000/2001 season, a
new set of handicaps were introduced by the Competitions Committee and the cross-country scoring formula
modified to improve slightly the scores of higher-handicapped gliders on the stronger
days.
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 | OK, if some days have stronger
conditions than others - why not handicap the day according to the weather? |
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Not a bad idea, but there are
practical difficulties with quantifying the soaring conditions of a particular
day. In a
competition, this is made easier by having a large group of people (usually of
similar ability) flying the same task and seeing how many get back, and with
what speed. This is not possible with club-based tasks in which pilots of
widely varying ability fly tasks in different directions through many types of
weather. Multiply this by the number of clubs across the country each with its
own weather systems and you begin to get an idea of the difficulties involved. |
 | Can I use the same turnpoint more than
once in a cross-country claim? |
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Yes! If you choose to fly
GRL-DID-GRL-DID-GRL, there is nothing in the rules to stop you. Not very
adventurous though and you may also find that such flights will not qualify for
badges or records. |
 | Can a single
flight qualify for more than one Ladder? |
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Yes
- any flight may be included in all ladders for which it
qualifies. By definition, every cross-country flight qualifies for the Open
Ladder. It may also qualify for the Weekend and Junior Ladders
as well as any Local Ladders, depending on their qualifying
criteria. Height claims from the season 2003/2004 onwards will
appear only in the Height Ladder. |
 | Why don't my
submitted flights appear automatically in some of my club's Local
Ladders? |
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Some
clubs use a facility within the National Ladder
website to publish details of their own Local Ladders. Such
ladders are not obliged to follow National Ladder rules at all;
they may be scored using different formulae, or have a range of qualifying
criteria that cannot be accommodated by the National Ladder.
Your club
Ladder Steward is able to specify whether or not a Local Ladder
conforms National Ladder rules. If it does, then your main
Ladder scores will automatically appear in the associated Local
Ladder.
If the Local
Ladder has not been linked to the National Ladder, then the
Club Ladder Steward alone is responsible for maintaining that
Local Ladder. Pilots who wish their National Ladder flights to
be represented on their Local Ladder should send their flight
details to their Club Ladder steward, who will then process the
information accordingly. |
 | How
does the Ladder deal with airspace infringements? |
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Unlike
rated competitions in which penalties may be applied during
the period of the competition, the Ladder must be able to accept
all valid flights held throughout the year. Currently, any
cross-country flight that penetrates restricted airspace is
accepted PROVIDED that prior clearance had been sought and
granted. The problem for club ladder stewards is in confirming
that such clearance had been received and therefore it is
difficult to devise a mechanism for penalising claims that
include unapproved airspace penetration. Pilots
should be aware of and fully understand the guidance
provided by the BGA in this respect. In particular, pilots
who are in leading positions in the Ladder must post their
logger files on the website in order to win a Trophy. Because
these files are open to public scrutiny, pilots should ensure
that their contents are beyond reproach. Note also that BGA Trophies will not be awarded for flights
supported by logger files that include unapproved penetration of
airspace. |
 | Some clubs are better sited with fewer airspace restrictions than others. Doesn't this make the National
Ladder unfair? |
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The Ladder is primarily a
club-based competition and the National element was introduced solely as an
attempt to let others know what can be achieved during a given season. It is
not claimed to be a fair competition at the National level, and not just for
the reasons quoted in this question. Other factors include the availability of
an effective launch mechanism, whether the club operates daily rather than
weekend-only, whether the pilot has unrestricted access to a glider on a given
day and a host of other factors. |
 | What's the
point of the Distance Ladder? |
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The Distance
Ladder was introduced to encourage pilots to supply ladder
claims even when their claimed flights may not score highly
enough to beat their current best four. There is no limit to the
number of flights that may be submitted for the Distance Ladder,
so encouraging competition right to the end of the Ladder
season.
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 | Bank
Holidays |
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Not really a FAQ, as it has only been asked
once during my tenure, but an interesting one, nonetheless. Scotland and the
rest of the UK occasionally enjoy Bank Holidays on different days, so how does
that day count in respect of the Weekend Ladder? In order to remove the need
for carrying three generations of birth certificates, the rule should be
assumed to refer to whether or not the day is a Bank Holiday at the site of
launch. |
 | Who is the
National Ladder Steward? |
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John
Bridge, currently a member of the Cambridge Gliding Centre (more...) |